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WRESTLING COLUMNS
The Lost Art of the Interview, Part II
August 7, 2004 by Sebastien Ferland
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After having read Martin Prevost's column about "The Lost Art Of
Interview", I feel compelled to continue his article and shed some
light on a long unnoticed subject: the Interview in professional
wrestling.
From the day that Stone Cold Steve Austin won the King of The Ring in
1996 against Jake the Snake, and let his infamous comment "Austin 3:16
says I just whoopped your ass!", the art of being interviewed has been
slowly let go in favor of a different kind of entertainement: the Art
of Shocking.
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Back in the old days of wrestling, when wrestling became a national
phenomenon, or say a "novelty" to the masses, interviewing was
mandatory. I can recall watching Saturday Superstars and anticipating
interviews from the likes of Hulk Hogan (Y'know som'thin' brother...),
Randy "The Macho Man" Savage (Oooo yyeah!!), Ted DiBiase (Everybody's
got a price for the Million Dollar Man Wahahahah!), even guys like
Jimmy "The Mouth Of The South" Hart, Bobby "The Brain" Heenan, and
guys from the breakout time of WWF. On Saturday morning, I would stay
riveted to the television set, probably damaging my eyes from being so
close to the big 27" screen, and I would just wait for those
interviews.
When I went out to play with my friends, we didn't wrestle -- our
parents didn't want us fighting (except for when we went swimming). So
what did we do" We memorized all those great lines they came out with.
Guys like Bret Hart, Ricky Steamboat, and the Honky Tonk Man (god, did
I hate him as a kid)... that's what gave the "entertainement" appeal
to this program. Wrestling and fighting was always the biggest part of
it, but if it had only been fighting, I don't think any of us would
have stayed glued to the TV like we did. WWF would never have become a
popular program, and certainly we would not have been privy to the
Monday Night Wars, and the Attitude era. We would not have seen guys
like The Rock, Steve Austin, Triple H and Shawn Michaels become so
popular.
Part of this appeal is, I believe, the fact that we always knew that
there couldn't possibly be these guys that just come on TV every
weekend, and beat each other up. I mean, didn't they have families"
Friends" Didn't they go shopping like us" Part of this appeal was just
that: the fact that through these interviews, we could at least
understand WHY they were fighting each other, and the more ridiculous
the reason, the better. "I got bigger arms than you", or "I'm so much
stronger than you" made us really get into it, even though it seems so
devoid of meaning when you say it like that. It all just made them
larger than life. That's why they call them Superstars.
After the beginning of the "Attitude" era, where D-Generation X are
rampaging throughout WWF, and becoming more and more "shocking", and
where guys like Undertaker, Mankind, The Rock, and Stone Cold Steve
Austin are getting involved into more intense matches and more bloody
feuds every week, we saw an increase in the popularity and appeal on
television. I think this is due to the fact that the feud between WCW
of old and WWF was necessary, if only for survival of the genre. Guys
like Ted Turner want to take Vince McMahon out of business, simply
because they can, and guys like Vince McMahon are resilient. So their
fight escalated, and the overall "Shock Value" of these programs was
blown out of proportion. The more shocking it got, the more ratings
they got, simply because people wanted to know what was gonna happen
next.
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As this shock value went sky high, the value of a good, solid "I'm
gonna kick your teeth in" went out of style. The more popular "reality
show" format slowly replaced the interviews, and few guys, such as The
Rock, were able to keep this sort of interview alive. But the more we
went forward, the more tv segments were aired.
Right after the purchase of WCW, things need to be kept up. I remember
being shocked when I saw stuff like ECW and WCW wrestlers getting
ready to fight, but instead shaking hands and forming an alliance,
which was soon to be led by one Stone Cold Steve Austin. I remember
seeing more and more matches of the "extreme" type, and part of this
was, I think, due to the fact that ECW wrestlers that made it to the
WWE were bringing their fanbase with them. Guys like the Hardys, the
Dudleys, Chris Jericho, Edge & Christian, and Mankind, made it all
very bloody and extreme. As good as those matches were, they will
never replace really good, stand-up fights. Matches like Austin vs.
Hart and Wrestlemania 13 were, in my opinion, what wrestling is all
about. But that's beside the point.
I'm not saying extreme wrestling and tv spots aren't good -- I enjoy
them as much as the next guy. But after all this transformation the
industry has gone through, what can they do to top all that" Take an
example on a guy like Billy Kidman. Billy is a great wrestler, no
doubt about it, and he's certainly a very good worker, has experience,
and can definitely help out greener guys. But as far as an interview,
I simply don't know -- he's never had one! I know nothing about him
except the fact that he doesn't talk, and that he was in WCW before,
in their cruiserweight division. It's a shame too, because those
things can be developed, and become great talents.
A guy like Shawn Michaels, for example, never use to have interviews,
until the Rockers became more and more popular. At that point, he
started talking, and bad mouthing, and eventually, became confident
enough that he was able to create D-X, and became a notoriously
amazing entertainer. God, he even sings his own theme song!!
Smackdown and Raw, nowadays, well... They do have some good
interviews, and I won't bash what they do because I'm totally hooked
on both. But I think they should slowly introduce the newer characters
to us -- not through releasing their life story on DVD, but by
interviewing them. Live, on the spot, right after a match, right
before one, a week before SummerSlam, y'know, like in the good
ol'days.
And make guys like Josh Mathews and Johnathan Coachman EARN their
paychecks! Jerry Gerardi is right: Mean Gene is sorely missed!! Bring
back the "on the spot" reporter, make them write articles about
wrestlers on the internet and read them on TV.
Maybe that'll bring back memories of great lines like "Whatcha gonna
do, Brother, when these pythons run wild on you""
by Sebastien Ferland..
Jerry Gerardi wrote:
Great column. Thank you for acknowledging me :) Anyway, new WWE on-air talent Todd Grisham needs to go to the Mean Gene Okerlund School of Interviewing. He is works stiff!!! as in life-less, unemotional, and downright BORING!!! Worst yet, He actually gets paid doing it... There is hope. I actually like Johnathan Coachman-always had; His interviews with the Rock will always be priceless gems, because there was always a chance of him breaking out in laughter. But they're all light years away from Gene Okerlund from his facial reactions to his range of emotions depending on the situation, He is/will be the measuring stick of which all other interviewers are judged.
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